Kosher Wine Tasting for Passover

Gary Vaynerchuk is joined by his dad Sasha to pair some Kosher wines with Matzoh and Gefilte fish.

Gary Vaynerchuk: Hello everybody and welcome to Wine Library TV, I am your host, Gary Vaynerchuck. And this my friends is the Thunder Show, aka the internet’s most passionate wine program. And today, we are very blessed with the number one guest of all time, more comments every time, Dad, I appreciate you rocking up my ratings when you come on. The vayniacs love you, they think you're the coolest and the greatest. Sasha: I know. Gary Vaynerchuk: There you go, what else is there to be said. Dad, thank you so much for being in the show. We are celebrating Passover tonight and we’re doing a Passover episode. So Matt, make sure you get it up because by the time you get this up, nobody will be able to watch. They’ll watch it tomorrow. Sasha: No, they can watch it Passover – Gary Vaynerchuk: Anyway, before we get to the show dad, I’ll be reading comments, so I’ve got to do that. Sasha: I don’t watch Wine Library TV so I have no idea what’s going on.. Gary Vaynerchuk: I know you don’t, I know. Sasha: Can I start drinking now? Gary Vaynerchuk: You could do whatever you want while I’ll read the comments from the last episode. I appreciate all of the comments, really enjoying it. Let’s go with Jade from Portland, “Good show. I enjoyed the discussion about cork versus screw tops, though I did get a little bit lost in the thick of things. The guest kept up the energy level and the good rapport between the two of you. But GV, keep working on polishing your interview style, still interrupting too much, we want to hear the guests finish their sentences.” That’s what Jade says. Sasha: Well, you don’t want to interrupt me. Gary Vaynerchuk: Definitely not, I’m too scared you might beat me up or something like that. But Jade, once again, just like with dad, I may interrupt him at times, but we’re used to anyway. That’s actually the biggest complaint with me when we talk, you never let me finish. Jade, it’s hard, we don’t edit. So, unless you want these episodes to run into 45, 49, 74, 147 minutes, I got to jump in sometimes. I apologize, I will keep trying, I agree I can do a better job. I think I’ve made some strives, I can always be better. But no editing puts me in a very difficult situation, Oprah and Barbara Walters and all those pips, they have editing. So if they let the guest talk forever.. Give me give a little something. Sasha: Who is that Jeff? Gary Vaynerchuk: Jade from Portland. Sasha: Yeah, people actually complain of that I heard through my sources. People complain about one Wine Library TV’s too long, takes too long, right? Gary Vaynerchuk: Yup. Sasha: So, I don’t know if we should interrupt or— Gary Vaynerchuk: Let’s end the episode. Happy Passover and that’s it. All right, Taco John says, “The look on your face Gary when she said 5% to 10% of the bottles cork was priceless. It’s a look of total disbelief that seemed to paralyze your face,” Taco, agreed. Gone Star says, “Gary, I love it when you kind of debate with the guest over the merits of wines or techniques, etcetera. I’m your one in every 2500 comment of cork wines. I’m watching all kinds of all WL TV’s these days, and you’ve had at least two cork wines in your first 225 episodes. I specifically remember the first one being 200 Calicat episode, 121 Saturn... Just using those two over the estimated five new shows per week, that would equal about one in every 312 wines being corked. Is this a fluke?” No, it’s probably a good point. Maybe my 2500 is on the high side, I was shocked with how low she went the other day. So, I still think it probably isn't that 1012, 50 is a little high, I do tend to over-exaggerate at times. So, maybe 2500 was a little bit high, but still now we probably have three or four cork wines in the show and probably in a thousand. So, I don’t know, I’m not quite sure Gone, so I can't put a stand on it. It’s not what I do, but you’re probably right, it probably went a little high with that. Dad? Sasha: I don’t want to interrupt you so— Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah. Sasha: What is that a low number or a high number? Gary Vaynerchuk: We had a discussion with a guest the other day about how many wines we’re corked, what do you think? Sasha: Very little. I happen to drink wine every single night religiously. Kosher will be going to be tonight, but usually I’m not a Kosher wine and I don’t remember the last time— Gary Vaynerchuk: You should mix Kosher wine more into your everyday wine drinking. Sasha: Well–you’re interrupting. Gary Vaynerchuk: And I apologize. Sasha: Now I lost my— Gary Vaynerchuk: Thought. That’s what I do. That’s how I keep it balanced Sasha: Right, right. But very few bottles—. Gary Vaynerchuk: What would you say, one in every hundred? Sasha: Yeah. Gary Vaynerchuk: More, less? Sasha: No one in every 100, 150, 200, crazy number. Every single night I don’t remember one wine it was, but it was all—I had this wine for a long time. Gary Vaynerchuk: Anthony Al says, “Thumbs down to screw tops.” That’s all he has to say, I understand. Sasha: But we have no choice. Gary Vaynerchuk: I’m high in screw tops, dad. I got no issue with that. Sasha: That’s psychological. That’s perception. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, perception is bull shit. Sasha: Well, guess what, perception is— Gary Vaynerchuk: Is reality. Sasha: Is a reality. Gary Vaynerchuk: Peter—I think you better read the study that happened in Australia Peter says, “I think you better read the study that happened in Australia when they tried side by side, some 30 year old screw top versus wines in cork. They were the same wine and the consensus was the wine under cork was old and leathery with some fruit. The screw top wine was clearly aged, but had freshness that was missing in the wines in cork. If I can remember what article was perhaps it was the Canter.” Here is Peter saying, “Screw that bull crap corks can age,” because that’s the big debate. Sasha: All right. So, I should go with all my wine with a cork and get also wines with the screw tops. Gary Vaynerchuk: I agree. Let’s get into the first one dad. Barkan, 2006 Chardonnay Reserve, 6 months barrel fermented. This wine rolls in a US$15.00 from the Judean Hills, Chardonnay action from Israel. Let’s see what’s going on with Barkan. Sasha: Is that from Israel? Gary Vaynerchuk: Yup. So, let’s kosher for Passover. Let’s put it over here. Let’s have some Matzoh and some fish. Well, first let’s taste the wine without the Matzoh. Well, fine do what you want. See, didn’t want to listen up because that’s how you whirl. That’s your style. All right. Sasha: Yeah look whose talking. Gary Vaynerchuk: Let’s do a sniffy sniff. Sasha: What is that? Gary Vaynerchuk: Sniffy sniff. Sasha: I just had a Portuguese wine. A bottle is quick. When I opened the bottle, I could not believe it. It’s aroma bottle and I have no idea who gave it to me. That was unbelievable. Gary Vaynerchuk: Are you in the Portuguese wine bandwagon? Sasha: No. Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay, sorry. Sasha: No, I wouldn’t do it in Kosher. No, but when you said sniffy sniff, I mean, it was just remarkable. Gary Vaynerchuk: So, what are you getting in your nose dad? Can we talk about the nose dad? Sasha: No. Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay. I’ll talk about the nose I have to do my part. Nose is kind of like non-existent. Not that much going on. Sasha: That’s why I didn’t want to talk about it. Gary Vaynerchuk: I understand. Very basic, little oak on the nose, a little fruit flavor, but very, very little. Let’s give it a whirl even though my partner in crime here is now eating after drinking. What do you think? Sasha: It’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: Do you like it? Sasha: It’s not bad. How much is it? Gary Vaynerchuk: $15.00 Sasha: it’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: I think it’s terrible. Sasha: It’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: Well, listen, dad. We have all, you know— Sasha: Just okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: I— Sasha: Just okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: I think this— Sasha: What do you mean terrible? How could you say it’s terrible? It’s okay. That’s the real in my opinion, humble opinion that’s not terrible. I mean, terrible, that means that you’re supposed to drink this wine ever again, like you did mention when used to in the beginning watch your Wine Library TV. Gary Vaynerchuk: You never watch the show? Sasha: I did once or twice. Gary Vaynerchuk: Excuse me. When you were on the show, you watched it 40 times and read every comment a billion times. Sasha: Not a billion, once. But you did say some about one of the – Gary Vaynerchuk: Vulgar? Dad this wine tastes like every $6.00, $7.00 wine in the market. Sasha: Okay, but it’s not terrible. Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s not. Sasha: It’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: I’m very disappointed with this because Barkan tends to be pretty good wine. I’ve been pretty happy with the wines in the past. I mean, this is very basic dad. Sasha: I have no hidden interest and funny, you know, the reason I asked how much this wine, because I felt this is not a $15.00 bottle wine. But, all the wine, all the prices so inflated, it’s a ten bucks– Gary Vaynerchuk: Dad, I don’t know if—I mean, Portugal for example, you brought it up. I mean, Portugal is gripping with like $10.00 wines left and right. I don’t know, I mean this is a very soft start to the show. You know obviously, luckily most people have already found their Kosher wine for tonight’s holiday, but—and a lot of people been drinking wine that aren’t Jewish and not on holidays, I mean, a lot of people is trying to drink more and more Kosher wine because the quality has— Sasha: He spills wine all the time in coffin wine. That why it’s not allowed in the house. Gary Vaynerchuk: This wine is very thin, very basic, I think it’s a very replicatable. As a matter of fact if this was Blanc, if somebody said that this Woodbridge Chardonnay in a magnum, I believe them. I’m not very into this wine. I’m going to score this wine 72 points. I think it’s a major pass and a 15 bones is definitely— Sasha: 85 points. Gary Vaynerchuk: Oh Matt, very good dad. Every time you say 85 points, we’ve got to look at Wesley, New Jersey. Sasha: I swear I didn’t really know that. Gary Vaynerchuk: No, I understand because I’m rating they get 85. All right top start. Do you think we should pair it with Matzoh or Gefilte fish to see if it changes? Sasha: No, let’s move on. We have to cut and make this quick. Once I come up with those questions today. Gary Vaynerchuk: Don Alfonso, 2008 Cabernet, $5.49. A little value playing this time. Sasha: Do you know. Not bad in the nose. Gary Vaynerchuk: Not bad. It’s a little black pepper, I’m getting like blueberries coming through on the nose too. Sasha: So, now we’re going to get into dirt and cow manure. Gary Vaynerchuk: Well, blueberries and pepper. What do you get? Sasha: Nice in the nose. Gary Vaynerchuk: Nice. Sasha: It just, you know. Gary Vaynerchuk: It smells a little fakey though, a little like, you know what I mean, like those– Sasha: What do you mean fakey? Gary Vaynerchuk: Like it doesn’t smell like fruit, it smells like artificial flavoring more. Do you know what I mean? Light. Sasha: That’s very light. Gary Vaynerchuk: Very light for Cabernet. Sasha: Very light, but honestly it’s a perfect summer wine. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, which is weird because it’s a Cabernet. Sasha: Right. Was it a Chili? It’s not like, it doesn’t taste like Cabernet. Gary Vaynerchuk: It tastes like thin Cabernet. Sasha: No, it tastes like a blend. Gary Vaynerchuk: Of? Sasha: Of something, you know, some— Gary Vaynerchuk: Just throwing up some random Jewish words he is not going to say in this scenario. Sasha: You don’t think so? Gary Vaynerchuk: No, I think it’s pretty funny. Dad, but honestly, I mean, it’s a light attack. Sasha: It’s very light. Very light, but for $5.49. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, I mean, you know it’s not— Sasha: And if you buy a hundred cases, you’d probably get a better deal. Gary Vaynerchuk: Really? Sasha: Yeah. Gary Vaynerchuk: Dad, you can't be selling on the Wine Library. Sasha: I’m not selling anything. Gary Vaynerchuk: Dad, let’s pair it with some Gefilte fish because Gefilte fish is delicious. What is in Gefilte? What is this? Sasha: It’s Gefilte fish. What is Gefilte fish? It’s fish and it’s Gefilte. Gary Vaynerchuk: What’s that Matt? Mott: It’s white fish. Gary Vaynerchuk: No, I know I understand, delicious. Sasha: Actually I love it, a horseradish. Gary Vaynerchuk: I know, that’s what I’m all about. Sasha: That’s it. It’s like die and go to heaven. Gary Vaynerchuk: You don’t eat that much Gefilte fish normally. Sasha: But at Passover, I do. Gary Vaynerchuk: No, I understand, but if it was like dying to go to heaven, you probably eat it more often. Sasha: Actually, not with burger. Was it, Kedem Gefilte fish? I’m not advertising Kedem. Gary Vaynerchuk: I understand. Sasha: So, please don’t think I’m we don’t even sell this stuff. Gary Vaynerchuk: We ship. Sasha: Somebody actually brought it. Gary Vaynerchuk: Two wines doesn’t get any better for me with the Gefilte fish. How about for you? The problem is the wine is so light that the food overpowers it. Sasha: Gefilte fish is getting better I think. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah maybe. You know, this isn't awful, but this is not exciting in any shape or form either. Sasha: Yeah at a $5.49, it’s perfect summer wine. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah I know, dad summer wine— Sasha: Excuse me, who said that you have to suppose to drink Bordeaux in the summer time? What’s wrong—. Gary Vaynerchuk: Nobody. I’m not into it. Sasha: What’s wrong with the Chilean Cabernet? Gary Vaynerchuk: Because it stinks, it’s like light. Dad, there is no way you’ll like this wine. Sasha: Yeah, I do. Gary Vaynerchuk: No way. I don’t believe you all the way. You love this wine. Sasha: I don’t love it. Gary Vaynerchuk: You like it? Sasha: But, I like it. It’s a perfect easy— Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s adequate. Sasha: It’s perfect. It is summertime. Gary Vaynerchuk: Bless you, Matt. Sasha: Bless you. It’s true, but I like it. Gary Vaynerchuk: If you know what I was thinking about when you sneeze, I guarantee you’re right, it’s true. Sasha: Yeah, it’s you know. Gary Vaynerchuk: What is that? Sasha: You know like chicken came before—no, the egg came before the chicken. Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s not what I feel. Sasha: Okay, listen. Gary Vaynerchuk: And then this wine is water thin. Sasha: It’s perfect summer wine. Gary Vaynerchuk: Listen, you know I respect that. I do. Sasha: You tell the viewers always don’t believe wines, but daddy doesn’t believe Gary. Gary Vaynerchuk: I agree. I don’t believe Sasha Vaynerchuk. Sasha: Excuse me, you can believe me. Gary Vaynerchuk: No way. Sasha: You think I own this goddamn whatever is this called— Gary Vaynerchuk: I think there’s a possibility based on your reaction. No, I’m just kidding, I’m kidding. Listen, we’re having a little fun here’s the bottom line. Sasha: It’s very light, you don’t have to drink Bordeaux, you can drink Alfonso cabernet–excuse me, people is going to buy it, try it and you know what—well, is it legal to offer? Gary Vaynerchuk: No. Sasha: It’s not legal. Gary Vaynerchuk: Please don’t. Sasha: Okay. I’ll get myself in trouble. Gary Vaynerchuk: We’ll have our first episode that doesn’t air. Dad, here’s the bottom line, go and drink this, go grab this, put it in a brown paper bag, go put yellow tail Cabernet– Sasha: No. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yes, go put – Sasha: Try it and see whose opinion, just because he’s a star— Gary Vaynerchuk: Excuse me I’m not a star and how do we know people disagree with me. Sasha: And write another whatever book and— Gary Vaynerchuk: Thanks for being proud dad, I appreciate it. Here’s the bottom line– Sasha: I guarantee you, if we have six people around this table, we’ll have six opinions, guaranteed. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yes, five that say it sucks and you’re defending it. Sasha: I would tell my finger, but I can't you know Passover tonight. Gary Vaynerchuk: Show me your finger, you put mom’s name on your middle—Matt, get in here, zoom in Matt. Mom’s name is on your middle finger tattoo. Dad, here’s the bottom line, I understand what you’re saying and I agree with you, it’s not awful, it’s just very thin. Sasha: It’s very light. Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s replicating wine in a four litter bottle. Sasha: It’s very light for $5.49. Bullshit, frenzy. Gary Vaynerchuk: Well, I mean, but you know. All right, let’s move on. You like it. Sasha: I like it, so I finished it. Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay, let’s move on. Finally, the Galil Yiron ‘04, this is Galil, 91 points, Daniel Rogov, $20.00, 72% Cab, 25 Merlot, 3% Syrah. Sasha: Who? Gary Vaynerchuk: Dad, please I know you know who Rogov is. Sasha: Well, I didn’t hear Rogov, Rogov, but yeah the Israeli guy. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yes that’s right. All right sniffy sniff time. Sasha: I’m hungry. Gary Vaynerchuk: You’re always hungry in the middle of the day because you don’t eat lunch. Sasha: Because I don’t eat lunch. Gary Vaynerchuk: Pretty good nose. What do you think dad? Sasha: I need to hold back. Gary Vaynerchuk: I know, but what do you get on the sniffy sniff? Sasha: It’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: Okay. Sasha: I’m telling you after this Portuguese wine– Gary Vaynerchuk: Everything stinks? Sasha: Yeah. I have to actually find this wine. Gary Vaynerchuk: I get a lot of black currant on this nose, there’s a little hint of oak clearly coming through little vanilla action on the back end, pretty good not bad at all. Let’s give it a whirl. Are you feeling the big heat on the back end? Sasha: It’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: Are you feeling the big heat on the back end? Sasha: No. Gary Vaynerchuk: You feel no alcohol on the back end, does that mean because you’re taking a lot of shots of vodka and cognac through your career? Sasha: No, you know I don’t drink wine, cognac– Gary Vaynerchuk: Not anymore. Sasha: For at least 27 years. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah but— Sasha: Anymore. Gary Vaynerchuk: What do you think about this? Sasha: How much again? Gary Vaynerchuk: 20 bones. Sasha: It’s okay. I’m not—who is that Yarden? Gary Vaynerchuk: Galil. It’s imported by Yarden, that’s what you’re seeing back there. I think this is a very similar style to what you get out of California, very big fruit, heavy oak, reminds me of things like semi and Franciscan and things that play in the same–well, it’s not a negative either. I mean—pine ridge that style, better vintages of those wines, let’s say. A lot of fruit, little over the top for me, so it’s a little grape juicy on the mid-palate and then there’s a lot of heat on the back end. Where I was excited about the fruit upfront, the back end gets a little hot for me. Sasha: I just got California. Gary Vaynerchuk: Do you have anything to add to this wine, dad? Do you prefer the Don Alfonso to this? Sasha: Totally different wine. You can’t drink this wine—you can, but in the summer time in quantities. Gary Vaynerchuk: No question. Sasha: Okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: And that you want to drink in qualities. Sasha: No, this wine, you can very ease a little and again, I have no hidden interest in the wine, I just think it’s— Gary Vaynerchuk: They understood that. Sasha: Yeah I know everybody understand that. But this wine is very simple, very simple. And for $5.49 what can you buy? Gary Vaynerchuk: Gum. Sasha: Right or two liters coke. Gary Vaynerchuk: Inflation hasn’t hit yet, dad. Sasha: Or a hotdog at the stadium for five bucks, right? Gary Vaynerchuk: That’s real. If you’re looking for the oak and the big kind of Cabernet style flavors, this is probably a wine that you’re going to like. I mean, to me it comes across okay. To me it’s an 88 point effort. I think it’s pretty solid maybe slightly overpriced, 15 bones I probably much more excited about it, but not horrible, but for me kind of off shelf. Kosher wines have a pretty good one here on the show, but today’s show is kind of okay, I mean, the white wine I'm not happy with. Sasha: What do you mean just okay? I’m on the show today. Gary Vaynerchuk: Well, the show is amazing. I’m talking about the wines themselves. You were just okay today as well. Really passionate about Don Alfonso, you look great. I always like your turtleneck. Do you have anything do you want to yup about?, Devils aren’t playing that well lately obviously. My dad is a huge Devils fan. Sasha: Yeah Devils is really— Gary Vaynerchuk: I’m going to say it’s in the same level as a Jets fan with the Devils, but he does miss games, so maybe even—a lot of game. Dad, mom is going to kick you in the face if you don’t eat tonight. Sasha: Excuse me, let me have–let me finish. Gary Vaynerchuk: Dad, please. We have this eat tonight. Grandma is over, are you excited about that? Sasha: Very much. Gary Vaynerchuk: How is grandma? Sasha: She’s good. She’s getting old that upset me a lot and as she getting older, I’m getting sadder because you know— Gary Vaynerchuk: You love your mom. Sasha: Yeah. Gary Vaynerchuk: What about wine wise? What’s going on? Anything interesting? Sasha: What’s that? Gary Vaynerchuk: Wine wise. Sasha: Well, that’s exciting—it’s a seven figure with that whole deal and I was actually when I heard the news, I was debating, should I retire now or should I wait. Gary Vaynerchuk: Right. You’re looking to retire? Sasha: No. Gary Vaynerchuk: And AJ is graduating. Sasha: That’s exciting. In May I, thank God, no more tuition, college. Three college is done, thank God.. Gary Vaynerchuk: And you’re going to be a grandfather soon? Sasha: Yeah, I’m going to be a grandfather. I still can’t, I can’t— Gary Vaynerchuk: Register. Sasha: Doesn’t register yet. Gary Vaynerchuk: Not until you see it? Sasha: Yeah, I still can’t—takes some time. Gary Vaynerchuck: Are you exited we’re coming over to your house tonight? It’s going to be fun. Sasha: Yeah it’s going to be fun and I think we should have the question of the day. I actually, I think I remember the last time— Gary Vaynerchuk: You asked who was better looking. Sasha: No. The last time I actually got into politics. Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah, don’t do that. Sasha: Don’t do that? Gary Vaynerchuk: It has no value. That’s not the platform. Sasha: Why not? Gary Vaynerchuk: It’s not a good platform. Sasha: We’re citizens of the United States of America. Gary Vaynerchuk: Why are you pouring that wine, why not more Alfonso? Sasha: Because I’m trying to— Gary Vaynerchuk: Give it a chance? Sasha: Give it a chance and see—I can't see why this wine is 91 points, I’m sorry Mr. Rogov. Did you give a score? Gary Vaynerchuk: 88. Sasha: That’s it. At least now we’ve got a little honesty. Gary Vaynerchuk: What would you give the Don Alfonso? Sasha: 88. Gary Vaynerchuk: Wow. Sasha: Yeah. It’s a two entirely different wine. Gary Vaynerchuk: Why did you say my rating was honest, dad? Well, everybody has a got different palate. Sasha: Well, that’s right, I’m not knocking them. Yes I didn’t mean to– Gary Vaynerchuk: More traditional style. Sasha: No, but what I’m saying again, I will repeat myself, six people around the table, six opinions, no question about it. Gary Vaynerchuk: Question of the day dad. Sasha: Question of the day, what do you think or what do we think about President if he’s doing—actually, in my opinion, whatever he did outside of the United Sates and his trip to Europe. Gary Vaynerchuk: Now, why don’t you start a political blog, you could talk everyday and you could do, you know. Sasha: On the blog? Gary Vaynerchuk: You can never bother me, I love you. Sasha: So, anyway I think he did a very nice— Gary Vaynerchuk: You know, you made me just loss at least 100 viewers. Sasha: Really? Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah because here’s what’s going to happen. There is going to be—Matt, you’ve seeing in the forum, right? Sasha: People who doesn’t like our president? If we don’t like the president, you like it or you don’t like it, that’s what the people going to get, that’s what democracy is and bullshit. We should support our president like the previous president. I never understand why would you in the world would you not really want president who elected, never understand, never understand, never will, okay. You got him, for four years, you should support him for four years. After four years, if you don’t like the president, you re-elect a new one. That’s it, I’m sorry. I’ll probably never going to be invited to this show, but it’s okay. Gary Vaynerchuk: You’ll have your own show. Sasha: Right and I think it’s going to be more successful. Gary Vaynerchuk: I agree. Sasha: What should we—oh, did they know if it’s a girl or boy? Gary Vaynerchuk: No they don’t know and don’t say it or Lezzy will never talk to you again. Sasha: Okay, I’m going to tell you—that’s a joke. So, what is the question of the day? Matt, are you hot? You can take your shirt off. Gary Vaynerchuk: We’re looking for ratings now. Sasha: Right. It’s actually warm in here. Gary Vaynerchuk: That’s the light, that’s what it does. Sasha: So, what do you want to ask me? Gary Vaynerchuk: We’re not going to talk about it anyway, so you might as well finish up your question. Sasha: Even in the politics? Gary Vaynerchuk: Yeah. Sasha: So, what do we think—then it’s our crisis, economic crisis is going to end. Gary Vaynerchuk: Oh that’s good. There you go. That’s a good one. Sasha: You know what we’re going, I don’t have to tell our viewers, we’re going through a tough, tough time and I don’t know what it’s going to take and how long it’s going to take. Gary Vaynerchuk: But there’s an enormous opportunity in this tough done. Sasha: Yes, enormous opportunity. If you have cash, pull in opportunities. It’s unbelievable. Vince has gone through over us 30 years. I never saw anything like it, even when we came first, you don’t remember you were in diapers. Gary Vaynerchuk: I remember. I was making decisions. Sasha: Right, you know, it’s unbelievable. Gary Vaynerchuk: Dad, thank you so much for being on the show. Sasha: Yeah, I think I’m going to write my own book. Gary Vaynerchuk: Are you sure? Sasha: And real— Gary Vaynerchuk: Set the story straight. Sasha: Right. Gary Vaynerchuk: You, with a little bit of me. Sasha: And me. Gary Vaynerchuk: We’re changing the wine world.